Nikolai Ivanovich Kozlov (born August 16, 1957) - professional psychologist, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences, candidate of philosophical sciences, director of the Synton Training Center, founder of the International Association of Personal Development Professionals, President of the professional association of psychologists of the Synton movement,
member of the international association of applied psychology IAAP, leading Russian writer in the field of personal and business effectiveness.
25 years of experience in conducting psychological trainings. Using the training methods he developed, primarily “Synton programs,” Clubs and Training centers operate in more than fifty cities of Russia, as well as in Belarus, Georgia, Israel, Kazakhstan, Latvia and Ukraine. In 2005, he was included in the encyclopedia of successful people “Who's Who in Russia.” Married for the second time, five children.
“What do I want when I work with people? All I want is to free the inner man and illuminate his inner world. Heal wounds, discover sources of energy and love within him, make a person strong and kind. So that he does not sway from the winds of moods, does not sway from the expectations of others, does not bend under the yoke of circumstances, but stands firmly himself, firmly walks on his own path. So that he opens his eyes and sees the world, and not just pictures about the world. To throw off the heavy shell and become open to the world, perceiving it in its entirety, sensitively and subtly, but at the same time become invulnerable and not be wounded by anything.”
(Philosophical tales)
Kozlov Nikolay Ivanovich
Graduated from the Faculty of Psychology of Moscow State University in 1979. M.V. Lomonosov, taught at the IPK State Committee for Tourism. He studied with Arkady Petrovich Egides, in 1982 he began conducting his own trainings, and in 1983 he founded the Practical Psychology Club (currently the Sinton Training Center).
The “Synton Program” developed by N. I. Kozlov includes the thematic cycles “Basic”, “World of Emotions”, “Successful Person”, “Kingdom”, “Difficult Games”. Developed the “Distance” system: a methodology for independent work on planned personal growth. Author of the “Logical Text Analysis” and “The Art of Writing Books” trainings, which develop thinking and work productively with scientific and popular science texts.
The founder of his own coaching school, who has educated and trained several dozen successful business and personal trainers. In 2004, together with A. Sviyash, I. Vagin and V. Levi, he founded the International Association for Personal Growth (now the International Association of Personal Development Professionals), which develops corporate standards in the field of conducting personal growth training.
In 2000, the Business Standard training business program was developed, and more than 80 open business trainings were conducted with managers of the largest companies in Russia and Ukraine.
Author of books on practical psychology and business success: “How to Treat Yourself and People”, “Philosophical Tales”, “Personality Formula”, “A Book for Those Who Like to Live”, as well as “Formula for Success, or the Philosophy of Life of an Effective Person” , Leadership Strategies and Simple Good Living.
Nikolai Kozlov was born on August 16, 1957 in the Klepikovsky district, Ryazan region. Graduated from the Faculty of Psychology of Lomonosov Moscow State University in 1979. He was a teacher at the IPK State Committee for Tourism. He studied with Arkady Petrovich Egides.
Since 1982, he began conducting his own trainings, and in 1983 he founded the Sinton Training Center. The “Synton Program” developed by N. I. Kozlov includes the thematic cycles “Basic”, “World of Emotions”, “Successful Person”, “Kingdom”, “Difficult Games”.
Developed the “Distance” system: a methodology for independent work on planned personal growth. Author of the “Logical Text Analysis” and “The Art of Writing Books” trainings, which develop thinking and work productively with scientific and popular science texts. The founder of his own coaching school, who has educated and trained several dozen successful business and personal trainers.
In 2000, the Business Standard training business program was developed, and more than 80 open business trainings were conducted with managers of the largest companies in Russia and Ukraine.
In 2004, together with A. Sviyash, I. Vagin and V. Levi, he founded the International Association of Personal Development Professionals, which develops corporate standards in the field of conducting personal growth training.
Author of books on practical psychology and business success: “How to Treat Yourself and People”, “Philosophical Tales”, “Personality Formula”, “A Book for Those Who Like to Live”, as well as “Formula for Success, or the Philosophy of Life of an Effective Person” , Leadership Strategies and Simple Good Living.
Over the past ten years, N. Kozlov’s books, according to publishers, have sold over 10 million copies throughout Russia. In addition to writing books, coaching, scientific, organizational and methodological work, he conducts extensive educational and advisory work through his personal website.
In the family, Nikolai Ivanovich considers himself lucky, he is married twice: The first wife is Alla, with her Kozlov has two sons - Alexander and Ivan. The second wife, Marina Konstantinovna Smirnova, is a philologist and psychologist, with the second wife there are three children.
Books by Nikolai Kozlov
Seventeen Moments of Success: Leadership Strategies - 2004.
Personal life workshop
Psychology for business people
You are a leader
Sinton: life, joys and problems
How to treat yourself and people, or Practical psychology for every day
Personality Formula
Philosophical tales
The real truth
A book for those who like to live
Formula for success
A simple correct life, or how to combine joy, meaning and effectiveness
A simple, proper childhood. A book for smart and happy parents
Psychologist. Encyclopedia of practical psychology
This book is for those thinking about life. For those who value Life, its play and sparkle above frozen rules and dogmas, who believe that you can live fun and meaningfully. What is this book about? About morality. About freedom. About liberation from fears and the possibility of happiness, about choosing the position of the Author even where everyone habitually chooses to be a Victim.
This book was written by a Practitioner who knows that there is nothing more practical than philosophy - naturally, correct philosophy. The author does not claim to own the Truth - in his opinion, owning the Truth is immoral. He is friends with Truth - and she seems to reciprocate his feelings.
The book is written in the form of Fairy Tales, that is, free living stories, where the scenery is Eternal Themes: Man, Goodness, Freedom, Religion, Art, and the reader settles among the characters: Morals, Decency, Like the Eternals, head. the spiritual office of Saint Vera Ivanovna, the Dragon - and observes what these Heroes do with a person and what a person can do with them. This book is for those who allow themselves to see Happiness not as a difficult goal that must be achieved, but as a natural and obligatory condition of life, like washing your face in the morning.
This book is for those who choose to love themselves and people, and their lives...
For the first time in the topic of popular psychology, readers are offered such a complete encyclopedic publication. Love and family relationships, the meaning of life and effective communication, raising children and the best methods of self-improvement - on all these topics the reader will find answers to key questions and, most importantly, reasonable practical recommendations, as well as examples from the world's best psychological research, articles, trainings and techniques . The author of the encyclopedia, Nikolai Ivanovich Kozlov, is one of the most famous Russian psychologists. His bestselling books“How to Treat Yourself and People”, “Philosophical Tales”, “Simple Right Life” and others are familiar to tens of millions of readers. N. I. Kozlov - Doctor of Psychology, Professor, President of the Association of Psychologists of the Synton Approach, accredited member of the EAC (European Association of Counseling), Rector of the University of Practical Psychology, founder and scientific director of the largest Training Center in Russia "Synton", editor-in-chief of the portal "Psychologos", the most popular psychological portal on the RuNet.
This is a book about a tasty and healthy life. As a lively and biased interlocutor, she will help an ordinary person discover the psychologist in himself - a practicing psychologist, a psychologist in life, and for those who are already psychologists - not to lose the Person in themselves. Since the true truth is always voluminous, the book will help you see, in addition to your own truth, the truth of another person, the completely different truth of men and women, and the universal truth - the truth of children, which, it seems, is each of us. The book seriously answers many funny how. Especially for young people - how to meet people on the street, for everyone - what games we play when we just live, why we quarrel and how to live differently, about the power of weakness, what truly determines our attitude towards betrayal and what is the Code of a decent person - in general, how to become rich and healthy, and not poor and sick. The pages contain psychological workshops and tests, meditations and provocations, business information and necessary anecdotes, that is, everything that real life can and should be filled with. At the same time, you will learn about the life of a psychologist from the inside, why and what kind of psychology you need, what Lifespring, NLP and other psychological trainings for a normal person are, get acquainted with the life of the amazing Sinton Club and how to become a Master in life. It's so simple and all under one cover. Nice meeting!
This is the first book by N.I. Kozlova. This is a modern version of D. Carnegie’s books, only based on Russian material and including a wider range of issues: not only business and everyday communication, but also personal growth, family, sex. The author devotes a lot of space to the problems of family and sex, analyzes specific situations, argues with many deep-rooted prejudices and shows ways to harmonize relationships in a couple. The book contains a large amount of applied information: psychological advice and recommendations, psychological workshop problems (with an analysis of possible solutions), personality tests with exercises for getting rid of undesirable traits and developing necessary ones. Everything is taken from life and is applicable to life.
This book by N.I. Kozlov, like others, is generous with thoughts, specifics and imbued with rich experience of practical work. A theoretical psychologist will find here a very unexpected, but substantive and friendly criticism of the humanistic approach in psychology and will be able to get acquainted with the “Synton program” as a new approach to organizing and conducting group psychological training. A practicing psychologist will not miss detailed methods of psychological games and exercises, especially live descriptions of the progress of training sessions. A teaching psychologist will certainly use excellent diagrams and pictures that help in analyzing specific everyday situations, interpersonal and family relationships. A life psychologist will most likely be interested in the Distance method as a method of independent work on planned personal growth. The book teaches, the book excites, the book contains a huge number of lively illustrations and examples, and the exceptionally vivid and emotional language makes the book relatable and exciting for a wide reader.
To whom more is given, more is asked. This is not true for leaders! If you want to have more in life, it is beneficial for you to be a leader. If you want to do more in life, you must become a leader. A leader is someone who has an advantage. A leader is someone who is allowed to have an advantage. A leader is the one for whom laws are written. When being first and managing your life becomes so easy for you that leadership no longer feels like work, being a leader will only become interesting to you. This is one of the most interesting and creative things in life - to be a leader, that is, to build life, people and yourself.
This book is for those thinking about life. For those who value Life, its play and sparkle above frozen rules and dogmas, who believe that you can live fun and meaningfully. This book was written by a Practitioner who knows that there is nothing more practical than philosophy - naturally, correct philosophy. The author does not claim to own the Truth - in his opinion, owning the Truth is immoral. He is friends with Truth - and she seems to reciprocate his feelings. The book is written in the form of Fairy Tales, that is, free living stories, where the scenery is Eternal Themes: Man, Goodness, Freedom, Religion, Art, and the reader settles among the characters: Morals, Decency, Like the Eternals, head. the spiritual office of Saint Vera Ivanovna, the Dragon - and observes what these Heroes do to a person and what a person can do with them. This book is for those who allow themselves to see Happiness not as a difficult goal that must be achieved, but as a natural and obligatory condition of life, like washing your face in the morning. This book is for those who choose to love themselves and people, and celebrate their lives.
“The book was made extremely lovingly - this is how a beloved child is prepared for the release - and was worked out to the smallest detail by the author himself, starting with the content and ending with the arrangement of the text, its composition, drawings, etc. At the same time, it is unusual - not only devoid of academicism, but actively non-academic in content, style, language, attitude towards authorities (what is it like to pat Buddha on the shoulder, sneer at Milton Erickson, or get on first-name terms with Carl Rogers?! ), the absence of that, as N. Timofeev-Resovsky put it, animal seriousness that can dry up any work. It can cause bewilderment, irritate and even infuriate, but only until we recognize in its construction the signature of the author’s work as a trainer who clearly sees the purpose of his work and does not replace them with the desire to please everyone without exception at all costs, but one that takes upon itself the courage to provoke, the courage of confrontation, the prudence of a long-distance runner, the breadth of a host inviting a feast, the slyness of kindness and the silent awareness of a guide.”
It doesn’t matter what business you do: whether you make money or look for the meaning of life, build employees or raise children, you do any business either effectively or not. So, this book is about how to be effective in any business. This book presents a new direction in psychology - Synthesis Technology. Combining in its content everything that has been tested in practice and actually works, it has its own identity. First of all, this is not a slogan, but a business style and language, a technological approach, a clear and simple description of methods and means: practitioners need an understandable and memorable algorithm, and not scary-sounding terms. Synthesis technology is the psychology of action, not contemplation; it is a collection of “know-how”, but not a bag of disparate recipes, but a consistently built system. This is real psychology for business and effective people: for entrepreneurs and psychologists, managers and housewives, for all those who want to become a universal businessman!
I find it difficult to call Kozlov a psychologist.
Not at all because he manipulates clients. Who doesn't manipulate? This is not the question at all.
And also, because NIK himself admits this:
“Nikolai Ivanovich Kozlov is a professional psychologist, received a basic psychological education, graduating from the Faculty of Psychology of M.V. Lomonosov Moscow State University in 1979. From the questionnaire
In fact, this is a direct deception. Now I can already admit that in fact I did not receive any basic psychological training at the Faculty of Psychology of Moscow State University. I introduce myself this way only for prestige: so that people who don’t know me will see me as big and fat. Dear. Yes, I studied at the named faculty at Moscow State University, but I didn’t receive anything for real psychological work."
Well, these are Kozlov’s own problems. If he failed to get what he was given, who is to blame? Some, by the way, get a lot.
For example, the ability to think independently. Or work with literature.
"I'm self-taught!" - NIK proudly declares. I am happy for him and at the same time sympathize with him, I answer him.
I’m glad because self-study is very useful. But one-sided. Without guidance, or even better mentoring, you may not get where you were aiming.
How did NIK study independently?
At the very first session, I successfully copied on two exams and received a “five”, and passed two more with a “four”, although I studied. Well, it happens.
The situation is painfully familiar to all students - if you have memorized all the tickets except one, that is the one you will get. If you learn only one ticket out of all, then you get the same one. Contrary to all laws of statistics.
Kozlov amazingly analyzes the situation: “I made the right conclusions, as a result of which I graduated from the faculty as an excellent student, and saved my head and soul from unnecessary things.”
Now it’s clear why Nick imposes his opinion, completely disregarding anyone else’s. He simply kept his head on the elementary ethical rules of a psychologist.
I will now tell you a story from my life.
During this time, when I was still studying at the Faculty of History of the Kirov State Pedagogical Institute named after. IN AND. Lenin, during the regular session we took an exam on Western history of modern times. This is the 19th century. Naturally, I was given a question that I didn’t know. "The Austro-Hungarian Empire during the period of bourgeois revolutions of the 40s of the 19th century." There was nothing to do, I didn’t have any spurs, and I miraculously begged to go to the toilet, where I tore out the corresponding pages from an old, written-off textbook on this period from the fifties. And then he successfully wrote it off. I passed with a “4”, which I was incredibly happy about. “Four” because he answered very uncertainly. The fact is that the text consisted mainly of obscene phrases like “bastard Austro-Hungarian democracy” or “the rotten ideology of total reactionaries.” Somehow I couldn’t swear during the exam. And if you remove the curse words, then the meaning fits into three lines: some rebelled, others made concessions, others resisted this, etc. In short, some died, some were imprisoned, some locked up in joy.
Strange, but I did not draw conclusions similar to Kozlov’s. I stopped tearing out pages from books. Even if it's a bad one.
On the contrary, I try to collect. You can learn a lot of interesting things.
By the way, when Kozlov writes - “don’t fill your head with nonsense - don’t read what you shouldn’t!” - I would like to know what should be read and what should not be read? For example, should one read “Diagnostics of Karma”, “Ringing Cedars of Russia” and other pseudo-religious fantasies of home-grown gurus?
By the way, the NIK will probably advocate that his works should be read. Firstly, because: “The Gospel is a moral textbook for millions and, apparently, there should be no ambiguities in such textbooks. It seems to me that my book “How to treat yourself and people: practical psychology for every day” is kinder and more appropriate The Gospel as a moral textbook would be much more suitable in our time.”
And secondly, because fees are rising.
Let's take a look at the website of the Sinton Training Center, maybe there are some recommendations on literature there? There certainly are (spelling, style and grammar are preserved):
“The Sinton people still read something, and often read completely random things, understand this and ask: “What is worth reading?” For many years I recalled something orally on the go, then I got tired and wrote down what I read to me I would like others to read it.
The things on the proposed list are clearly unequal. On the one hand, I don’t see anything super important, for example, in “The Little Prince” by Saint-Exupery or “The Master and Margarita” by Bulgakov, but these books are usually known to all educated people in our circle, they are often referred to in passing, and they need to be read though just because it's a little modern classic.
On the other hand, this is a philosophical line that gives an outlet to life and is close to me: Fromm, Frankl, here is Seneca, Tolstoy and Pisarev.
On the third side - psychological literature itself: Bern, forgive the language, but his comrade is bright and deep, every schoolchild should know Carnegie, Levy is rich, and who hasn’t read Kozlov - what is he doing in Sinton?
There are also authors whom I respect and simply love: Bach, Korczak, Lewis. And on the list there are things that are especially interesting, if not necessary, for distance learners: this is Agotha Christophe “Thick Notebook” (the ability to study and a non-judgmental attitude towards life), Daniil Granin “This strange life” (time tracking) and even, for example, Romain Rolland "Cola Breugnon" (live with heartfelt pleasure).
This list is not imposed on free people in any way, but those who study at Sinton learn from it: read, think and live.
Books (in alphabetical order):
Bach Richard. "The Seagull", "Illusions".
Bayard. "Your troubled teenager."
Bern Eric. "People who play games", "Games people play."
Weller Mikhail. "The Adventures of Major Zvyagin", "Cassandra".
Frankl Victor. "In search of meaning."
Granin Daniil. "It's a strange life."
Egides A.P. "Labyrinths of Communication" (all about conflictogens).
Carnegie Dale "How to Win Friends and Influence People."
Kozlov N.I. - forever.
Korczak Janusz. "How to love a child."
Christophe Agota. "Thick notebook."
Levi V.L. - All.
Lewis K.S. "Letters of Screwtape", Treatises ("Love").
Osho - look for yourself.
Pelevin Victor. "The Recluse and the Six-Fingered One."
Reinhard Luke. "Transformation".
Rolland R. "Cola Brugnon".
Seneca. "Moral Letters to Lucilius".
Tarasov V.K. "Technology of Life: A Book for Heroes."
Tolstoy Lev. "The Death of Ivan Ilyich", "Confession".
Fromm. "Escape from Freedom", "The Art of Loving".
Chesterfield. "Letters to my son."
Zakharov M.: “The Same Munchausen”, “Ordinary Miracle”, “Kill the Dragon”, “Formula of Love”
Tarkovsky A.: "Andrei Rublev", "Mirror"
Fabri Z.: "The Fifth Seal".
"Groundhog Day".
"Dead Poets Society"
"Flying over Cuckoo's Nest".
"The Shawshank Redemption".
"Holy One."
This is such a weird, eclectic list. In which the protestant Lewis and the sexual maniac Osho are assessed equally usefully. However, this list is symptomatic of a “modern” person. Everything fits together, everything is the same - and it doesn’t matter whether these books contradict each other. Often for such a reader it is the form that is important, not the content. And, most importantly, this form should be “modern”, unusual, fashionable. Something like the illiterate opuses of Dan Brown, the necrophiliac fabrications of Sorokin and the avant-garde of Murakami.
And the meaning of these, so to speak, works of high art, often remains in the darkest shadows.
Cult of Rajneesh (Osho)
Rajneesh Chandra Mohan, born December 11, 1931 in Central India, also known as Bhagwan Shri Rajneesh (translated from Sanskrit, "bhagwan" means "holy man") and Osho ("oceanic", "dissolved in the ocean")
Rajneesh, who called himself the “founder of the Only Religion,” was the son of wealthy parents. Osho is one of the most striking and controversial personalities in the religious history of the 20th century, being an enlightened master for some (his adherents) and a notorious destroyer of ancient Indian traditions and beliefs, a “spiritual terrorist” and “sex guru” for others.
Osho's teachings are a mixture of tantrism with the revelations of Rajneesh himself.
Tantra occupies a special position in Hinduism. Tantra, in a sense, is the opposite of yoga, since yoga is the path of effort and discipline, while tantra is the path of permissiveness. Before Christianity spread to India, Tantrism had reached levels of brutality, cruelty, sorcery and superstition often incomprehensible to modern consciousness. In its crudest forms, tantra includes black magic, sexual orgies and human sacrifice.
“I am the founder of the only religion,” Rajneesh declared, “other religions are deception. Jesus, Mohammed and Buddha simply seduced people... My teaching is based on knowledge, on experience. People don’t need to believe me. I explain to them my experience. If they find it correct, they accept it. If not, then they have no reason to believe in it." The founder of the “only religion” urged his followers to “stop time, immerse themselves in the moment.” He preached “liberation from one’s own self,” from conscience. He said that one must live without thinking about anything, without burdening oneself with thoughts about the past, or the future, or about family, or about one’s daily bread.. And as the only the way to this pointed to his system, including meditation, chants, ritual dances, similar to the dances of the first hippies.
Rajneesh, just like Kozlov, taught that in this world you cannot do without love:
“Develop your sexuality, don’t suppress yourself!” he urged. “Love is the beginning of everything. If you missed the beginning, you won’t have an end... I don’t inspire orgies, but I don’t forbid them either. Everyone decides for themselves myself". The published Osho quotation book on the topic of sex reflects Bhagwan's position on this issue quite clearly:
“There is nothing sinful in pure simple sex... There is no need to hide it behind the beautiful word “love”. There is no need to create a romantic fog around it”;
"It should be a pure phenomenon: two people at that moment feel that they would like to connect on a deeper level, that's all. No obligation, no duty, no obligation in this. Sex should be full of play and prayer."
"I give you complete freedom. My efforts are here only to help you go beyond that, so if you are a homosexual, you must go beyond homosexuality; if you are heterosexual, you must go beyond heterosexuality."
But it wasn’t just his preaching of freedom of sexual life that attracted Rajneesh. "Every sannyasin," he wrote, "has a great contribution to make, for we are trying to realize a great dream in which all religions can meet, in which the earth can be our home - not divided into nations, races and colors." This dream will be realized by the followers of Rajneesh - the “enlightened” or those moving towards “enlightenment”.
Rajneesh Ashrams are oases and nurseries for the new people of the new world. And, of course, only Guru Bhagwan can show them the path to “enlightenment.” "Everyone has the potential to become God... God is a state of consciousness... it is a way of enjoying life right here and now." “Enlightenment” is a leap into the unknown, and in order to make it, you need to surrender with all your soul to Bhagwan, remove mental barriers in front of him. "When you become a disciple, when I initiate you... I'm just trying to help you find yourself."
Osho propagated the ideal of the new man as a person capable of enjoying a full-blooded physical life and at the same time reaching the heights of the spirit. He called such a person Zorba-Buddha, choosing Buddha as a symbol of the soul, and Zorba as a symbol of the body (Zorba is the hero of one of the novels of the Greek writer Kazantzakis, endowed with enormous potential for love of life).
Rajneesh has repeatedly spoken hostilely about traditional religions: “We are making a revolution... I am burning old scriptures, destroying traditions... Shoot me, but I will not convert to your faith.” At the same time, Rajneesh prophesied the very rapid approach of a worldwide catastrophe: “This crisis will begin in 1984 and end in 1999. All types of destruction will reign on the earth at this time - from natural disasters to suicide by the achievements of science. In other words, floods unseen since the time of Noah , earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and nature will give us everything possible... There will be wars that bring humanity to the brink of nuclear war, but Noah’s Ark will not save it. Rajneeshism is the Noah’s Ark of consciousness, a corner of calm in the center of the typhoon... The catastrophe will be global and inevitable. It will be possible to hide from it only in my teaching." And, as is usually the case with neo-prophets, he hit the mark. In early 1984, Rajneesh expanded his prediction of an alleged coming catastrophe, noting that Nostradamus' prophecy would be fulfilled and AIDS would kill 2/3 of the world's population. At the same time, he said about his followers: “I will not say that the Rajneeshites will survive the catastrophe, but I can say with absolute confidence that those who survive will be Rajneeshites, and the rest will be monkeys (that is, not grown to the level of Rajneesh’s “superman” ) or commit suicide. In the end, those who remain don't matter."
Among the meditation practices developed by Osho offered to adepts is one called “Dying Consciously.”
The cult of Osho (Rajneesh) is classified as a destructive religious organization (totalitarian sect, destructive cult) in:
Analytical Bulletin of the State Duma of the Russian Federation "On the national threat to Russia from destructive religious organizations";
An initiative letter - a deputy request from the deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation N.V. Krivelskaya to the Minister of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, Army General A.S. Kulikov (January 1997);
Information material of the Ministry of Health and Medical Industry of the Russian Federation "To the report on the socio-medical consequences of the influence of some religious organizations on the health of the individual, family, society and measures to provide assistance to victims", 1996;
Book by A.I. Khvyli-Olintera "Dangerous totalitarian forms of religious sects."
Rajneesh was born in 1931 into a family of Jains, adherents of one of the ancient religions of India. In 1957, Rajneesh graduated from the university with honors, a gold medal and a Master of Philosophy degree. For several years he taught philosophy at various universities. Since the late 60s, Osho began to demonstrate his original meditation techniques, organizing meditation camps in various places in India.
From the early 70s, a commune began to take shape around Rajneesh in Pune, attracting an increasing number of Westerners seeking spiritual truth. Within a few years, the community turned into a large center, capable of receiving up to two thousand people at a time. Rajneesh's speeches were recorded on tape and were later published in the form of separate books, the number of which now exceeds six hundred.
Later, Rajneesh ashrams were formed in other places in India, as well as in the USA, England, France, Canada, Japan, Russia and a number of other countries. Rajneesh's sermons found their addressees. Up to fifty thousand people a year passed through the school of chanting and meditation founded in Pune.
As reported in the press at the time the center was founded in Pune, some visitors to the commune returned with stories of sex orgies and drug use in Osho's communities. Some researchers believe that the word “orgies” is hardly applicable to Osho’s practices, since Rajneesh does not divide the manifestations of life into positive and negative, like many Hindu cults, and in Osho’s doctrine the concepts of good and evil are blurred.
One of the spiritual practices widely used in the cult of Rajneesh is the so-called “dynamic meditation”. It is explained that supposedly with its help “the consequences of previous life experiences are removed and energy is gained.” Each session begins with chaotic breathing to the beat of a drum. Due to the hyperventilation of the lungs that accompanies such breathing, a person becomes drunk from excess oxygen. He is advised to scream, roll on the floor, and make any involuntary movements. The special state experienced by a person is explained as something mysterious, possible only thanks to a certain secret possessed by the guru. In fact, according to Professor Dr. Margaret Theiler Singer (University of California), this phenomenon has a clear physiological explanation and is nothing more than a trick.
In the Rajneesh cult, professional psychotherapists worked alongside the guru. Leaders convince people that the person himself is to blame for his previous painful state, since he was supposedly inadequate in his behavior. After a few days of such “cure,” people lose the ability to think for themselves; they become people without their own biography, “existing here and now.” Now they are ready to accept the "new doctrine". Female adepts perceive gurus especially emotionally; they are the majority in the cult. A religious ceremony looks something like this. Rajneesh shouts the words: "Life! Death! Despair! Happiness!" They mix, and ultimately it means “nothing.” This muttering brings students into a trance, similar to meditation. In this state, a person has practically no rationality, the person is outside of reality.
Becoming a sannyasin (monk) in the cult of Rajneesh. a person is completely deprived of his own will. Therefore, sannyasins can only exist in groups, submitting to the will of the leader. The cult is characterized by a special fanatical devotion of its adherents, even compared to other destructive cults. For example, when Rajneesh hinted that a woman burdened with children could not achieve enlightenment, many female sannyasins were sterilized right there in the cult center of Laguna Beach.
In his cult rituals, Rajneesh often introduced his adherents to a state of nirvana (translated from Sanskrit as “bliss”, “illumination”) with the help of drugs, and individual meditation sessions in the ashrams of the “holy man” ended in fights and stabbings. There were cases when sectarians, maddened by Bhagwan’s lamentations and drugs, broke each other’s arms and legs.
Psychiatrist Betty Tilden (UK) believes that without the help of medicine, adherents of the Rajneesh cult are not able to return to normal life. The therapists who worked for Rajneesh were cold, calculating and ruthless people. For Rajneesh, the life and health of his followers were worth nothing: “I am not interested in our capabilities. If you feel bad, then so it should be. All this is done in the name of love...”.
The statement of an adherent of the cult, a thirty-year-old Perm doctor: “My inner experience, the spiritual joy experienced by me, testify that the path to true freedom lies through the liberation of a person from the voice of conscience. The voice of conscience in a person is the voice of the devil” only confirms that the cult can be quite confidently classified as potentially the most dangerous from the point of view of possible participation in the organization of anti-social actions, including terrorist acts.
Tal Brook, a former initiate of the Indian guru Sathya Sai Baba, described his impressions after visiting Pune:
"The subject of horror and adoration in the media, Rajneesh created the image of a “new man”, rejecting all norms and traditions. Man, according to Rajneesh, is a hedonistic god, independent of anything (except from the inner voice of Rajneesh) and free to give to the cosmos any appearance depending on his desire. This is the dominant pleasure seeker, existing in himself, owing nothing to anyone. The family is cursed, children are a burden. As long as the “neo-sannyasin” has money, he has fun wildly. Then interest in him disappears. Murders, rapes, mysterious disappearances of people, threats, arson, explosions, abandoned children of "ashramites" begging on the streets of Pune, drugs - all this is the order of the day for the marvelous hybrids in red, who consider themselves daring discoverers of a new meaning of "love". working in the Pune psychiatric hospital will confirm everything that has been said, not forgetting to mention the high level of mental disorders associated with the fact that the ashram has taken political power into its own hands and there is no one to complain about it.”
In early 1981, reports emerged of a threat to Rajneesh's life. A strict regime was introduced in the ashram; everyone entering was searched for weapons. A store was set on fire, and an explosion occurred near the ashram's medical center. According to cult representatives, the assassination attempt on the guru in February forced the ashram administration to speed up the process of searching for a new headquarters, which had already begun. According to India Today magazine, “Police and Pune city authorities are unanimous in their view that the incidents were instigated by Rajneesh followers because the last two weeks of investigation have revealed that the Rajneesh Foundation is up to its neck in unpaid taxes, misappropriation of charitable donations, theft and in criminal cases against members of the sect, the investigation of which, by the time she left the city, had not been completed."
In 1981, the government of Indira Gandhi deprived Bhagwan's ashram of the right to be considered a religious organization. The US Consulate in Bombay issued Rajneesh a visa, and on June 1, 1981, having sold off the ashram's property and taking with him 17 of his most devoted students, he secretly flew to New York. After Rajneesh left Pune, his followers spread throughout the West, setting out to establish "sacred cities" throughout Europe, which were planned to be self-sustaining. These cities were supposed to become an alternative to society, being examples of “sannyas”. In the United States, efforts were made to create a model of a "holy city" governed by the "teacher" himself. On July 10, 1981, the Chidvilas Rajneesh meditation center in Montclair (New Jersey) purchased the Big Magdy Ranch from an investment company from Amarillo (Texas) for $6 million (of which $1.5 million in cash). Its territory near Madras, Oregon, covers more than 100 square miles. The center also managed to lease 14,889 acres in the same area from the American Bureau of Land Management.
Soon two hundred followers of Rajneesh from 16 European countries gathered in Big Magdi to enthusiastically welcome the teacher to his new home in September. After some time, plans were made public to build “the first enlightened city in America” called Rajneeshpuram (city of Rajneesh). On November 4, 1981, the Wasco County Commission voted by double margins to hold a referendum in May 1982 on whether Big Magdy could be considered a city. In such cases, only local residents vote, and in this case, followers of Rajneesh, and the result was not difficult to predict: 154 votes for the emergence of the city of Rajneeshpuram and not a single one against.
In a short time, in the dusty steppe of Oregon, not far from the provincial town of Entelope, on the abandoned Big Magdy Ranch, an oasis of Western civilization was created: an airfield, a comfortable hotel with a casino, shopping streets, restaurants. There were roads with special buses plying along the routes indicated by the “holy man.” This “miracle” was created by the labor of 6,000 followers of Rajneesh, as well as with the money of 500 thousand so-called touring adepts who lived far from the guru, but regularly came to Oregon to communicate with their leader and transferred impressive sums to his account. Bhagwan's fortune grew steadily. “I am the guru of the rich. There are enough religions that deal with the poor, leave it to me to deal with the rich,” said Bhagwan. Bhagwan Rajneesh's net worth was close to $200 million, tax-free, four planes, a helicopter and 91 Rolls-Royces.
“We would like him to have 365 Rolls-Royces. A new car for every new day of the year,” a fanatical follower of the pseudo-prophet confidentially told a correspondent of Le Figaro magazine. In one of these luxury cars Bhagwan made his daily rounds among the congregation. Exactly at 14:30, the guru personally got behind the wheel and slowly, solemnly paraded along the living wall of his adherents, lined up along the edges of the so-called “road of nirvana.” They considered it a joy to see their idol draped in an emerald robe, and threw pink petals under the wheels of his car.
From the very beginning, the cult's attempts to create a paradise in the Oregon desert met with fierce resistance. The legality of the new city was questioned for two reasons: first, the separation of state and church clause of the Constitution was violated, and second, the Wasco County Commission's decision to call for a referendum violated state land use laws. There was a threat of dismantling most of the buildings. As a precaution against the decision to dismantle Rajneeshpuram and to show that the cult had influence among municipal services and authorities, the Rajneeshites officially occupied the nearby town, deciding to rename it from Entelope to Rajneesh. Taking advantage of the fact that, according to local law, it is enough to live in the state for 22 days to gain the right to vote in local elections, the guru decided to increase the number of voters in Entelope at the expense of his followers. In New York, San Francisco and other large cities of the United States, Bhagwan's supporters began to invite alcoholics, tramps, and drug addicts to the ashram. All this continued until the election of the town mayor. The operation “share your home with your neighbor,” carried out by Rajneesh, thus gathered 3,500 people in the city of Rajneesh. Bhagwan's followers voted for the right person to guru and Entelope was renamed Rajneesh.
Most of the forty original residents of Entelope, mostly elderly, were subjected to constant surveillance by the police forces of sannyasins, were subject to taxation for the benefit of the sect, and were forced to contemplate a nudist beach in the city park established by the city council full of Rajneeshites. They chose to give up and leave the city. The city grew as Rajneesh's followers bought existing houses and built new ones.
Meanwhile, the US Immigration Service continued to investigate suspected violations of immigration laws and related criminal provisions by members of the Rajnish Foundation International. More than 30 Rajneeshists, including the leadership, were suspected of fictitious marriages of US citizens with foreign citizens.
Homeless people and alcoholics, like the notorious Moors, having done their job, could leave. The guru's personal guard (he was guarded by a whole detachment of specially trained militants, armed not only with small arms, but also with a combat helicopter with missiles) was ordered to disperse the suspicious company. However, the tramps were in no hurry to leave the self-proclaimed city of Rajneesh. They also had no intention of working as a laborer for the guru. Reluctantly, the guru was forced to agree for them to remain among his flock. And in the vicinity of the newly created Rajneeshpuram, strange events began to occur. Several times the state police had to investigate crimes that were very similar in style: people seemed to fall asleep, killed by an unknown poison. Moreover, all the victims were from among the recently emerging followers of Bhagwan who took part in the voting. Their corpses were found in different places, but not in Rajneeshpuram itself. The police were understandably suspicious of the guru and his associates. Sensing danger, Osho decided to withdraw from secular affairs and take a vow of silence. Very convenient and very on time.
While Rajneesh remained silent as promised, a group of his closest aides committed lawlessness. Major financial scandals within the organization's leadership have become known.
The “Saint” kept his vow for four long years. The mediator of his communication with the world was Sheila Silverman, his faithful follower. She ran the ashram with a strong hand, regularly collected tribute from the sectarians and, of course, provided advertising for the reluctantly silent man, who continued to publish brochures calling for “freedom through sexuality.” She personally led the ashram army, numbering about 100 people in its ranks. When the surrounding farmers tried to call on the inhabitants of Rajneeshpuram to observe Christian morality or at least the basic norms of human coexistence, Sheela threatened to kill fifteen farmers for every one follower of Rajneesh, declaring that soon the whole of Oregon would be called Rajneeshpuram: “To achieve this, I am ready with every bulldozer , going to demolish this world, stain with your blood! Under the influence of public opinion, the police and then the FBI filed a case against Bhagwan's sect. Rajneesh decided to speak, but it was too late.
About four dozen FBI investigators were directly investigating Rajneeshpuram. They discovered weapons warehouses, laboratories for the production of drugs that were regularly added to the sectarians' food, and a carefully camouflaged underground passage for the guru to escape in case of emergency.
On October 27, 1985, Rajneesh was taken into custody at the airport in Charlotte, North Carolina, where Bhagwan's own plane landed for refueling. Rajneesh and eight of his associates were allegedly flying to Bermuda.
Shortly before the revelation, High Priestess Sheila Silverman, sensing that clouds were gathering over her, considered it best to move with her personal guard and her next husband to Western Europe. While the “saint” was sounding the alarm and gathering his dwindling ranks, Sheela withdrew $55 million from the ashram’s Swiss bank account and disappeared. What accusations did Bhagwan make against his recent like-minded partner? It turns out that she tried to poison the life of Rajneesh’s personal doctor, attempted the life of the guru himself, killed vagabonds whose bodies the police found in the surrounding fields... The High Priestess was not idle either. When Interpol tracked down Sheela and her gang in Stuttgart, Mrs. Silverman willingly began to confess: “Bhagwan is a spoiled child who cannot breathe without a monthly 250 thousand dollars of pocket money. He is a genius at using people’s gullibility, a drug addict who cannot live without "Valium". His life story is a complete scam. And I was an accomplice in this scam. He and I, we made a magnificent pair of dodgers."
The short trial, held in Portland, Oregon, ended on November 14, 1985. Bhagwan received a purely symbolic punishment: ten years of suspended imprisonment plus a $300,000 fine. In addition, Bhagwan was ordered to leave the United States within five days. After Rajneesh was deported from the United States, he tried to stay in any country where his followers were (and by that time there were already about 300 Rajneesh centers around the world), but 21 countries either banned him from entering or deported him without any special explanation (like, for example, Greece).
In mid-1986, Rajneesh returned to India. Within a few months, the Pune commune renewed and expanded its psychotherapeutic and meditation programs, as reflected in the word "Multi-Versity" that Rajneesh chose as the general name for its teachings and practices.
By the end of the 1980s, Rajneesh's health had deteriorated significantly. In the last months before his death, if his health allowed, Rajneesh went out to his students for “meditations of music and silence,” and then they watched videos of his previous conversations. Rajneesh died on January 19, 1990.
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Osho's propaganda of permissiveness and Kozlov's sexual licking are very similar. Is not it?
One can only hope, paradoxically, that now a reading student is a rather rare thing. It’s easier to find an essay on the Internet now than to write it yourself. And many people don’t know how to read abstracts themselves.
We had such a case once. One student came to submit an essay before the test. "Concepts of modern natural science." Kozlov would definitely have made spurs. What use does he need knowledge that has no practical, momentary use?
Teacher: “Did you write this work yourself?”
Student: “Yes, myself, naturally...”
Teacher: “Are you sure you wrote the essay yourself?”
Student: “Well, of course, I said it myself!”
Teacher (with pressure): “Did you REALLY work YOURSELF?”
Student (beginning to get nervous): “Well, yes, but what?”
The teacher silently opens the essay in front of her. It would be better if she immediately admitted that she downloaded abstracts from the bank.
Somewhere in the very middle of a rather voluminous work in a smart text, oversaturated with scientific phrases, suddenly one comes across: “Well, is it possible to read this far and not go oh... oh!”
She passed the test only after she copied several classmates’ essays by hand.
Life is such a strange thing, constantly regretting that the new generation has become less able to read, I have ridiculous hopes that Sintonians will not read Osho. It’s ridiculous, because Kozlov’s authority will force it.
In the meantime, we were distracted by Kozlov’s library and the adventures of the “sexual guru,” NIK tell us what he did at the university.
During his studies, NIK learned to dance, sing, type, quickly read and rewrite lectures from tapes, smile according to Carnegie and be natural according to Anti-Carnegie. That seems to be all I found in The True Truth. Oh yes, he also managed to study a book by Imre Lakatos.
After graduating from the faculty, Nick immediately found himself at the Institute for Advanced Studies, where he gave a lecture course on practical psychology to Intourist guides and interpreters.
I understand Kozlov, in the 70s. last century there was no way to use the literature on practical psychology. Simply because this literature did not exist. Except for the semi-underground Carnegie. It was hard for him.
Therefore, he himself composed the science of practical psychology, read it for three months, then his listeners passed exams. The most interesting thing comes later. For the next course, he composed a completely different science.
And I saw: “... in the next semester, the students answered me with COMPLETELY DIFFERENT Laws of Soviet Psychology. But with the same conviction. After all, these are Laws!”
He made fun of the translators well...
How did they know that these laws were invented by a fresh graduate? Of course, the listeners considered these laws to be correct.
NIK needed to write fewer cheat sheets, but would have taught social psychology properly and learned what the fundamental attribution error is - the tendency of an observer to underestimate situational and overestimate personal reasons for the behavior of other people.
In the case of Kozlov, the following example illustrates the fundamental attribution error.
In 1977, Dr. Lee Ross, together with Teresa Amabile and Julia Steinmetz, conducted a very interesting experiment. He staged the survey without prior preparation. Ross randomly assigned some Stanford University students to ask questions, others to answer, and asked others to observe. The researchers asked questioners to ask difficult questions that would demonstrate their breadth of knowledge. The questions were sometimes very simple: “What is the name of the Seventh Book of the Old Testament?”, sometimes very complex: “Where is Brainbridge Island?”, sometimes very funny: “Which coastline - Europe or Africa - is longer?”
We, of course, all know that the one who asks questions has the initiative in the conversation and has the advantage. This is why it is sometimes so difficult to talk with psychologists who are accustomed to talking with clients with questions.
However, in this case, both those who answered and the observers came to the erroneous opinion that the one who asks supposedly knows more than the one who answers.
On a 100-point scale, observers rated the knowledge of those asking as 78 points and those answering as 42 points. Those who played the role of “students” rated the knowledge of those asking at 81 points, and their own at 48 points.
So NIK would not delude himself that he is a “creative personality”...
In this situation, even the most uncreative person will become one. Those with social power, in this case the IEC itself, tend to initiate and control the conversation, which often leads those below them to overestimate their knowledge and intelligence. Doctors, teachers and police officers, for example, often consider themselves experts in all matters not related to medicine, pedagogy or crime. Students also overestimate the brilliance of their teachers. If one of these students later becomes a teacher, they usually find that their former teachers are not so smart.
The same applies to Sintonites. I am sure that those who become closer to NIK will learn with considerable surprise that the guru is not so smart, self-confident and infallible.
For example, a person with high anxiety turned to psychologist N. Kozlov. Most likely, NIK will refuse to work with him. He is fundamentally not interested in psychology as helping people with problems: “Watching the work of my colleagues, I became convinced that I absolutely do not want to be a psychotherapist. I realized that psychotherapy is clearing the soul of crap, and depth psychotherapy is digging deep into the crap ".
Although it is even more likely that Kozlov will refer the client to one of the many groups of his “Synton”.
I am very interested in whether the NIK will ask to look at the medical record?
To be honest, I doubt it. Because in none of his books I even found a mention of medicine.
I'm always interested in diagnoses. Why?
Yes, because doctors often call neurocircular or vegetative-vascular dystonia “anxiety syndrome.” It is based on overstrain of the central nervous system, causing dysregulation of the cardiovascular system, deterioration of blood supply to organs and tissues, trophic disorders, and deterioration of microvascular patency.
Other risk factors may add to this stress on the nervous system. Among them are chronic focal infections (tonsillitis, sinusitis, caries, etc.), brain injuries, consequences of acute or chronic intoxication, for example, alcohol or drugs.
That is, high anxiety can be a consequence of caries plus high nervous tension.
Anxiety can be relieved. Will Kozlov also treat caries?
And there may still be headaches, dizziness, weakness, fatigue, excessive sweating, chilliness, weather sensitivity, instability of blood pressure, poor sleep, hypertension, atherosclerosis with coronary heart disease, dystrophy with signs of early aging.
And, in this case, high anxiety is only a symptom of some more serious disease.
What will such a client leave with a psychologist who fundamentally does not want to know the theory of psychology?
If you're lucky, then with nothing.
If you're unlucky, then with another diagnosis. Appeared for correction.
In “The True Truth”, Candidate of Psychological Sciences N.I. Will Kozlov once again state that he is not a psychologist? Moreover, this will be highlighted in bold, in capital letters and inserted into a frame:
"If psychology excludes education, then I exclude psychology"
In general, education is dealt with by pedagogy, or, in extreme cases, educational psychology. And then, with a big stretch.
So, let's consider - does the consulting work of a psychologist imply education?
The world around us is a kind of objective reality, as they say, given to us in sensations.
But we cannot perceive this reality objectively.
Perception is subjective, don’t you agree?
Two people leave the house and see that the snow is already beginning to melt.
One says: “Ugh, what filth!”
And the second: “Hurray, spring has begun!”
Why does one see dirt, and the other see spring? Everything depends on the points of the inner “I”. From attitudes, mood, character type, and so on.
Which one is right? From the point of view of objectivity - no one. After all, everyone sees only one side of the world, not noticing the other.
From the point of view of subjectivity, both are right, because each of them lives in his own world, in his own subjective mental reality.
Remember the parable?
“A beggar dervish was sitting by the road. Two people came up to him and began to argue - who owns the born calf - the owner of the cow or the owner of the bull? The Sufi listened to one, saying that the calf is the flesh of its mother, she fed it, and said: “You are right, the calf is yours.” ". Then the sage listened to the arguments of the other - the calf would not have existed if not for the work of the bull - and answered, “You are right, your calf.” A passer-by walked by and was surprised: “It doesn’t happen that both are right!” The Sufi sighed and said: “And you’re right!”
This is how it is in our case, both are right and wrong at the same time. It depends from what point of view you look at it.
So what kind of education can we talk about?
After all, when we educate, attitudes and values are transferred to the child. Naturally, our values, which we once learned from our parents.
But here is the situation of psychological training - does it have the right to impose its values on clients?
Only if this psychologist has reinforced concrete confidence in the absolute strength and acceptability of his beliefs. But such confidence is a sign of incompetence, because the basic principle of scientific psychology is: “Doubt!” Including yourself. For doubt is the engine of development, and a psychologist who does not develop is like a dead man.
So does a psychologist have the right to impose his point of view on a client?
Of course, a sentence may arise: “If the client has a problem, then, therefore, his value system has not justified itself, and the psychologist can offer him his own.”
Immediate objections: firstly, changing values is a very labor-intensive process, time and other costs are simply incalculable. Secondly, who will guarantee that these values are suitable for the client, taking into account his social environment and mental characteristics? Thirdly, NIK has its own problems. Either he will divorce his wife, or he will disperse Sinton. Due to the discrepancy between their values and the values of the Sintonites. It was not possible to raise a generation of Suns. Maybe the work system is lame?
Or maybe fourthly? That is, in my opinion, it is not possible to create tens or hundreds of psychological clones of one’s “I”.
But this is exactly what happens when we educate. We are trying to realize ourselves in the objects of education. Otherwise, this is not possible; absolute freedom in raising children does not work.
If children are not raised by their parents, then someone else takes their place. The one who will give them their guidelines in this chaotic life.
Doesn’t Kozlov know this?
Naturally, he knows.
But then I still don’t understand how it’s possible to force (and another Russian word cannot replace the Latin “manipulation”) another “I” to live the way Mr. Psychologist sees fit?
Has he resolved his complexes?
It is the lack of a classical theoretical basis, strange as it may sound about a graduate of the Faculty of Psychology of Moscow State University, that leads to the fact that the NIK, describing the currents of psychology in its “True Truth,” gives examples of very, very controversial psychological courses.
As they say, tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are.
For example, Dianetics: “Well, there’s no point in swearing at it. This is a normal version of individual psychotherapeutic work through awareness and re-experiencing traumatic events, mainly in childhood. It works effectively, helps many, and many of my friends, extremely intelligent people, were delighted with it . And this is not a sect at all. And the fact that Scientology (Dianetics is simply the first stage of Scientology) is registered as a church - what do you care about that? If you don’t like it, do only Dianetics, and Scientology is one of the calmest and tolerant religions peace."
At the end of the page there are telephone numbers of the Moscow Dianetics Center.
In fact, I get the impression that Kozlov was busy advertising one of the most dangerous pseudo-religious organizations.
And this is not just my opinion.
Let's take a look at the Sinton forum again.
Section "Psychological techniques", Topic "Scientology"
POLL: Scientology is...
Sucks - 71%
Normal - 0%
I don't care - 29%
Eijin: I sent a letter to Kozlov, duplicated here.
"Hello, dear Nikolai Ivanovich!
I read your reviews about Scientology and Dianetics. I didn't really like them. In your criticism you do not go beyond malice, but in general you approve of the activities of this sect and even suggest trying it. Alas, you have probably only seen the tip of the iceberg. You have no idea what is hidden behind the smiling mask of this organization. And by unknowingly advertising it, you are committing an evil deed. Please read the materials on my site, and then you will understand what is really going on."
Hiero: Please check out the materials on my website
Consider this an official moderator warning.
And now to the point.
I am well acquainted with both official Scientology (obscurantism) and the “Free Zone”, which is based on the techniques of Ron Hubbard, but has nothing to do with the church. I also very often use in my practice effective techniques from the arsenal of dianetics. They work very well in the right hands.
So I highlight the third option: the techniques used by Dianetics are very effective and can be used. However, the official structure of this organization behaves very unscrupulously towards those people who join it.
MegaVolt: I support Hiero. The ideas are valuable, but the insistence with which they want you to bring them your money is off-putting. I have been receiving letters for 5 years now after they were completely ignored. Spammers.
VIH: “Very dirty” is putting it mildly.
I myself am a little familiar with the official office from the inside. A little, because I “vomited” quite quickly. I find it difficult to say from what in the first place: either from the constant feeling that they are trying to tightly control me and do not allow me not only to object, but even to come to my senses; either from repeated “inconsistencies” that smell foul of half-truths or substitution of concepts.
And there is also a constant state of “war with the whole world.” Even at the level of terminology. For example, their concept of "confront" is synonymous with Synton's "calm presence." As the ad says, “feel the difference.”
Finally, a great rule: do not discuss the material you are studying with other students. That is, "step left, step right..."
I have no doubt that there are useful things in technology itself. However, the load comes with so much dregs mixed with common truths, “chewed up” for those who are especially stupid, that the result is “complete crap.”
And as for the letters... They've been sending them to me for 5 years, too. And it's not just spam. This is a practical task - “how to return a person to services.” First - “come back, I will forgive everything.” Then - a manipulation like “we offer an interesting job.” At some point, they don’t just offer a job, but in the spirit of “you MUST”. And besides mail, there is also a telephone number, the number of which has not changed since then. It seems like I clearly explained a hundred times that I have my own life, but before every “church holiday” someone is trying to sell me a free ticket for it.
Alyoshenka: I consider Ron Hubbard to be an intelligent person who created a good personal rehabilitation program. Let's put it bluntly - a good program... And then the bullshit started.
I have encountered... uh... these people several times... attack of the clones... it seems that the notorious automatic shaving machine was tried on all of them... people are different only before its first use.
Template thinking + attempts to squeeze everything and everyone into a framework + loss of feedback from reality... simplifying a person to the level of a microcalculator...
I consider the modern structure of the Church of Scientology to be a destructive cult, at least its Russian branch.
Eijin: I consider the modern structure of the Church of Scientology to be a destructive cult, at least its Russian branch.
What they do here is just flowers, but what they do abroad is already berries. They even have their own concentration camps, and any person in their dungeons can be tortured to death. Oh, if only Kozlov knew whose mill he is pouring water into...
Hiero: What they do here is still flowers, but abroad they are already berries. They even have their own concentration camps, and any person in their dungeons can be tortured to death.
Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers... (C) “Last year’s snow was falling”
It’s easier in Russia, since there is an alternative like the “Free Zone”, where, fortunately, there is no smell of obscurantism yet.
Eijin: Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers...
What other “fairy tales”? Show autopsy photos?
Still, I really, really don’t like the ending of Kozlov’s article “Visits to Dianetics.”
By the way, I discussed my misadventures in our club on this forum. Our presenter told me: “Never mind, Dianetics simply paid Kozlov well for advertising, so he praises them.” Still, this version seems doubtful to me. It is the tradition of Scientologists not to pay anyone for advertising, but to seek free advertising. So it seems to me that Kozlov praises Scientology quite sincerely.
VIH: It’s one thing to relate to the official “office”, the ideology of the teaching and HOW and WHY this or that technology is used there. I have a very definite attitude, which is why I left there at one time.
Another thing is the technology itself. From the statements that SOMETHING is described by Hubbard and Scientologists use it, and Hubbard and Scientology are bad, it does not follow that this SOMETHING is definitely bad. If only because, according to the laws of logic, anything can follow from a false premise, including a true statement. Consequently, if Kozlov took something from Hubbard and even explicitly refers to it, this in itself does not mean anything. It’s just that this “something” is considered reasonable. No more.
Hiero: What other “fairy tales”? Show autopsy photos?
You see, this will be equivalent to the fact that if I prove to you that our world was created by an external intelligent force, I will assert that this force is the biblical God unequivocally. That is, I fully admit that within the framework of a large organization there may well be simple fanatics who are ready to kill anyone for their “right” cause. And the presence of such fanatics does not mean that the organization itself is completely pathogenic. This only means that the organization is powerful enough to be fanatically worshiped. And this is rather a plus.
If you have a desire to take revenge on Scientologists, or anyone else, then please, with this desire, bypass this forum if you cannot be constructive in communication.
Eijin: That is, I fully admit that within a large organization there may well be simple fanatics
The technologies of concentration camps, destruction of enemies, intimidation, blackmail and other criminal actions were developed PERSONALLY by the founder of the Church of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, are documented in his Letters of Instruction and are the OFFICIAL POLICY of the Church.
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Section "Philosophy of Sinton", Topic "Questions to N.I. Kozlov"
Eijin: Dear Nikolai Ivanovich, why do you praise Dianetics and Scientology, this is a destructive organization (see my website)?
Do you approve of the existence of Scientology RPF concentration camps, the exploitation of child labor by Scientologists, the murder of Lisa McPherson by Scientologists, incitement to suicide, psychoterrorism, false promises and their other criminal activities? Are you hearing about this for the first time or do you consider it a hoax of an anti-Scientology conspiracy?
Does a simple Syntonite have the right to contact you personally and receive an intelligible answer without a THIRD PERSON (your wife or a Forum moderator) deciding whether you have the right to hear this question or not?
N.I. Kozlov: Dear Eijin!
If you want your questions to be answered on this site, you must accept and follow the rules of this site, which, in particular, include respect for your interlocutors and the exclusion of aggressive attacks.
As an exception, I will briefly answer your questions: I have a habit of forming an opinion only on the basis of what I have personally seen. What I really, personally encountered at the Dianetics Center is what I allowed myself to write about. As for the opinions and testimonies of other people regarding Scientology, many of them come from the same source, which tells about me that I created a destructive religious organization of an occult-mystical nature with elements of Satanism. They write about me as a libertine and a homosexual, and my children and wife read it. Agree, when they write something like this about you, there is a reasonable doubt about the objectivity of what the same company writes about others. I have no sympathies for Hubbard, but I am not an expert in his activities, I do not know the facts and do not consider myself the right to state anything categorically about him, especially in mass media.
End of answer.
From now on, I will ask you to maintain a more polite tone in your questions and not to confuse the format of meaningful questions for understanding with assault and brainwashing. Make sure that people want to answer you - and you will receive meaningful, serious answers.
Eijin: I decided to open a new poll on this topic:
"Why does Kozlov support Scientology?"
(The topic was renamed by the moderator to “N.I.’s attitude towards Dianetics and Scientology”, and the poll was renamed to “How does N.I. feel about Scientology?”)
Section "Philosophy of Sinton",
POLL: How N.I. refers to Scientology?
Supports: stupidly - 7%
Supports: out of ignorance - 0%
Supports: for money - 21%
Supports and does the right thing - 0%
He doesn't support her - 71%
Eijin: We bring to your attention a new survey on the topic of relations between Sinton and the Scientology sect.
Andrey (forum moderator): Eijin, I corrected your wording of the topic and survey: they were very conflict-prone.
The penalty for causing conflict is in the very wording of the question: “Why does Kozlov support Scientology?” and for hidden PR of your site.
Eijin: Is it indecent to call Kozlov Kozlov?
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Eijin: To make Kozlov’s attitude towards Scientology clear, I am publishing his article.
"Dianetics. Well, there's no point in swearing at it. This is a normal version of individual psychotherapeutic work through the awareness and experience of traumatic events, mainly in childhood. It works effectively, helps many, and many of my friends, exceptionally intelligent people, were delighted with it. And it’s not at all not a sect. But the fact that Scientology (Dianetics is simply the first stage of Scientology) is registered as a church - what do you care about that? If you don’t like it, do only Dianetics, and Scientology is one of the most calm and tolerant religions in the world.
What, what problems does it make sense to come there with? The center will tell you that Dianetics can help you with any problem you have, it will simply make you able to solve your problems - but take this only as what they believe.
They have a complete sense of self-sufficiency, they are convinced that Dianetics is the most advanced and accurate science of our time.
Dianetics works methodically, slowly, but reliably, and without severe nervous shock, your life will really become easier and brighter. Although, as for the methodology: it’s a little mechanical and boring in form. And of course, be prepared for the fact that you will definitely be dragged into all the courses you really need.
Because Dianetics is not only a spiritual matter, but also a business. Everything is fine.
Many will also be put off by the fact that, according to the organizational structure, Dianetics is an army and everyone, in formation, prays to Hubbard.
I'm not sure he bequeathed it.
One way or another, it’s definitely worth stopping by and making your own impression.
In Moscow: The Moscow Dianetics Center is a branch of the Church of Scientology in Moscow (tel. ******** and ********), and every true Dianetics person dreams of becoming a real Scientologist.
Hiero: Please be sure to quote from the book by N.I. completely without any cost to you when quoting. Otherwise, I recognize your message as violating the rules of this forum, since you deliberately distort information in order to justify your own position.
Eijin: ?????????????????????????????????
The quote I have given is ENTIRELY and COMPLETELY consistent with the chapter “Dianetics” from the book by N.I. Kozlov's "The True Truth" without any "costs that are beneficial to me in quoting." If you find even one missing word, you can flog me publicly.
In addition, I don’t understand your logic - it turns out that minor omissions change the meaning of other words to the opposite???
Strannik1: Dear friend, have you read all of Kozlov’s books?
In addition, with regard to NIK books, it is more useful to ask the question not “why”, but “why”.
Dr_Mike: Why does Kozlov support Scientology?
Evil Freud (to me): excuse me, where is the support for Scientology in the above article?
I see that the NIK describes Dianetics and clearly states: it is only a therapy. Look for yourself:
This is a normal version of individual psychotherapeutic work.
But he hardly writes about Scientology and clearly separates Dianetics and Scientology:
If you don’t like it, just study Dianetics, and Scientology is one of the calmest and most tolerant religions in the world.
With all this, he clearly and honestly shows both the pros and cons of Dianetics (let me refrain from quoting, you will find as many as you need).
In this article, Kozlov does not support either Dianetics or Scientology, but only spoke about it, and spoke honestly.
That's why I don't understand:
A) What makes you think that NIK stands for Scientology?
B) Why demonize his neutral article? (or for you, as for the Soviet members, is simple information already fiery propaganda?).
Eijin (to the Wanderer): I understood the hint.
I only partially read the first book, as I found the rest of the information trivial or unnecessary. I lost the desire to read subsequent books.
I quote Kozlov’s later opinion on Dianetics from the book “Formula of Personality”:
"Indecent Dianetics.
So, Dianetics, apparently, exists sloppily - if only because through its activities it has managed to turn, it seems, everyone in the world against itself. Almost without fail: say the word “Dianetics” loudly in any audience, and several (including the most serious) faces will grimace as if you had said something indecent. It’s true, as a rule, people don’t like Dianetics, just as uncles and aunts don’t like a tall teenager who defiantly tells adults that they are fools. As soon as Dianetics set its sights on really serious things, it immediately and everywhere came into conflict with the powers that be: with local ideology, creed and government.
Governments do not like her because she declared herself a church and evaded most of the taxes, the ruling church - because Dianetics turned out to be a serious competitor, psychologists - for working outside the generally accepted tradition and other undisguised disrespect for them. It is good form to criticize Dianetics and state that it is engaged in commercial (or industrial) espionage (all this, of course, has been proven by someone), and if it has not yet been banned in our country, then it is only a matter of time. Educated Orthodox Christians will sadly whisper to you that Hubbard’s alleged family life is only an outward cover for his homosexual inclinations, and in general he was friends with Aleister Crowley, the founder of the Satanism movement. All his life, of course, he was a loser, and if he became a multimillionaire, it was only because he zombified everyone and simply fooled him. Many people complain that Dianetics turns people into obedient robots: however, most often the complaints come from those who used these robots before Dianetics and from whom it took them away.
What do I think about all this? Dianetics, I repeat, is not close to me, but I really know a lot of people who have found themselves in Dianetics and sincerely believe that this is the source of mental health and human decency. As for Hubbard, it seems that he is certainly an extraordinary person: a bright man, certainly courageous, creative and with well-organized thinking. The hard work and talent of the organizer seems to go without saying.
Each of us would like that much!
When each of us makes - himself, during this earthly life - at least a semblance of the colossus that Hubbard designed and launched with his own hands, then we will be able to grimace in his direction and justifiably criticize. In the meantime, let each of us do our own Dianetics!”
Eijin (to the evil Freud):
Excuse me, where is the support for Scientology in the above article?
After reading this article, the uninitiated will have a good impression of Dianetics. In addition, the phone number is indicated, which is an advertisement, and for which they seem to have to pay money.
Clearly separates Dianetics and Scientology
Noel: I haven’t read NIK’s works, but from the quotes and what has been published on this topic by Eijin, we can draw conclusions that perhaps NIK is carrying out careful propaganda work.
It seems that he wants his audience to “try” this product...
Evil Freud (to me):
After reading this article, the uninitiated will have a good impression of Dianetics.
Is not a fact. After reading this, the uninitiated will be left with information about Dianetics. The information, I note, is accurate. And objective. The only thing Kozlov did not say was that Dianetics is in many ways a translation into modern language of Freudian psychoanalysis. The system is definitely working. So you shouldn’t decide for others what kind of experience they will have.
In addition, the phone number is indicated, which is an advertisement, and for which they seem to have to pay money.
Dianetics is one of the Scientology techniques provided in the same organization. Their fictitious separation is simply a cunning PR move.
Dear, Dianetics is psychotherapy. Scientology is a church. This division is not fictitious, but absolutely reasonable. I personally do not like Dianetics, much less Scientology, and at the same time I remain objective.
Evil Freud (to Noel): I haven’t read NIK’s works, but from the quotes and what Eijin has published on this topic, we can draw conclusions that perhaps NIK is carrying out careful propaganda work. It seems that he wants his audience to “try” this product...
As an option. For example, to make sure that Sinton is better. But here’s what’s interesting to me: in the same book, in the same section, NIK “promotes” NLP, Gestalt, and violet. Why doesn't anyone care? The Violet people were also recognized as a sect a couple of times (Volkov, it seems), NLP is considered by many to be a rigidly manipulative technique (a set of techniques), and as for Gestalt, some highly educated psychologists believe that only those people who have a medical education should engage in therapy.
Friends, there is no need to demonize what NIK wrote. He gave the information and everyone is free to do with it as he wants. And to scold Kozlov for information, in my opinion, is not an adult thing to do.
Noel: I won’t make excuses... I didn’t scold anyone, especially since I didn’t study the subject of the conversation well, I just expressed my subjective, possibly superficial, point of view on the question posed in the topic.
Eijin (to the evil Freud):
The information, I note, is accurate. And objective.
The catch is that this information is very INACCURATE and very subjective. One can argue on this topic.
Dear, Dianetics is psychotherapy. Scientology is a church. This division is not fictitious, but absolutely reasonable.
First, as the Scientology guru said, “religious status is just a cover from lawyers and tax inspectors.” In fact, the so-called The "church" of Scientology is engaged in the commercial sale of its psychotherapy. Dianetics is one of the parts of the whole technique, such as the Basic Course for Synton. What division can there be here?
Strannik1: Eijin, sorry, but I get the impression that you emphasize certain points in the books you read and ignore others.
For example, I personally, after reading the ENTIRE chapter on Scientology in the Personality Formula, developed a “very ambiguous” (to put it mildly) attitude towards it.
Evil Freud (to me): The catch is that this information is very INACCURATE and very subjective. One can argue on this topic.
I don't want to argue. But I want to see the inaccuracies and subjectivity in Kozlov’s presentation of information.
First, as the Scientology guru said, “religious status is just a cover from lawyers and tax inspectors.” In fact, the so-called “church” of Scientology is engaged in the commercial sale of its psychotherapy. Dianetics is one of the parts of the whole technique, such as the Basic Course for Synton. What division can there be here?
Darling, be careful. You yourself just admitted that Scientology has psychotherapy. And I don’t see anything surprising in the fact that this church is selling it. This therapy works - why not sell it? Dianetics is not an analogue of Basic in purpose. Rather, it should be compared with the Synton program. And everything else in Scientology is with Distance and author’s trainings. Those. - She is completely self-sufficient.
And further. All the Hubbard quotes make me think strangely. Where are these quotes from? You wrote that from official sources. Can you specify which ones? So far they sound as authentic to me as the protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Eijin (to the evil Freud):
I want to see the inaccuracies and subjectivity in the presentation of information by goats
Okay, let's go.
Dianetics.
Well, there’s no point in swearing at her.
There are serious reasons for this - see below.
Works efficiently
Helps many.
And this is not a sect.
Scientology is one of the calmest and most tolerant religions in the world.
“Religious status is a cover from lawyers and tax authorities” - Hubbard’s Bulletin “Religion” dated October 29, 1962, available on the English-language official website of the Church.
"The enemy of Scientology... can be harmed by any means: robbed, robbed, deceived, slandered, sued, physically destroyed" - Hubbard Letter of Instruction, October 18, 1967.
“Acceptable methods of fighting enemies are: intimidation, bribery, blackmail, black PR” - Moe Bulldog, Security Office Directive.
“The purpose of our ethics is the removal from the world of teachings hostile to Scientology. When this is accomplished, the elimination of all other teachings in general” Hubbard, “The Book of the Volunteer Priest.”
"The main goals that we must achieve with all our might:
1. Depopularization of the enemy until complete destruction.
2. Taking control or winning the alliance of the heads or owners of all media.
3. Taking control or winning the alliance of key political figures.
4. Taking control or winning the alliance of those who control international finance and inducing them to tighten their control over finance.<...>
Our main enemies: psychology and psychiatry."
"Our goal is to destroy psychiatry in all its forms.
We don't care what others think about this. Governments won't do this. Politicians won't do this. Lawmakers won't do that.
Only we can do this and we will do it. Let's destroy psychiatry and make every man, woman and child on this planet a Scientologist" - from a speech by David Miscavige (the current Fuhrer of the Church).
Evil Freud: There are serious motives for this - see below.
And Sinton is scolded. Are there serious motives too?
On whom? Let's say it can delight Kolya K., and drive Lisa M. crazy.
There are statistics that after 5 years, 95% of adherents leave the organization.
The total number of Scientologists has not risen above 100 thousand for 50 years.
Typically, the same can be said about Sinton. How many people are still in Sinton after five years? Except for the coaches. A?
Signs of a sect: guruism, thought control, alienation from society, cult language, pseudo-elitism, economic exploitation of adherents, suppression of consciousness through poor nutrition, hard work, lack of sleep, placement in a special concentration camp (for full-time employees), etc. and so on.
Stop, stop, stop! No need to distort! We are talking about Dianetics, not Scientology. It is so? But this is not there. You are describing what is found in Scientology.
Scientology is one of the calmest and most tolerant religions in the world.
Yes, the facts here are damning. Apparently Kozlov was wrong here. At the same time, the question that you ignored again arises. Where do the firewood come from? I see the bulletin "Religion" from where. But other?
And here: “Religious status is a cover from lawyers and tax authorities” I don’t see a crime. Even the Russian Orthodox Church cheerfully sells everything, under the guise of being a church.
And finally. You didn't include one interesting quote. The one where Kozlov says: if you don’t want to, don’t go to Scientology. Practice Dianetics quietly for yourself. The question I want to ask is: why did you miss this quote? And others that obviously do not fit into your version? For example, about the fact that in Scientology everyone marches in formation and prays to Hubbard? A?
Eijin: And Sinton is scolded. Are there serious motives too?
Eat. But more on that in another topic.
What psychological technique or direction works equally effectively for everyone? I don't know this one.
How many people are still in Sinton after five years? Except for the coaches. A?
We are talking about Dianetics, not Scientology. It is so?
Where do the firewood come from?
Evil Freud: Yes. But more on that in another topic.
As I understand it, everything related to psychology can be criticized. Yes?
Can be assessed statistically - more destructive or positive consequences. In Dianetics, in my opinion, there is more destructive.
Sinton was not originally created for life membership.
You can study Scientology all your life and not pass.
I repeat once again - THERE IS NO SEPARATION. Standard Dianetics is sold in Scientology churches, and there is the same sect.
Nice. This means that my opinion as a psychologist does not convince you. OK I understood.
Even if a person has only completed Dianetics, he will naturally want to take higher courses, since he does not receive what was promised in Dianetics.
Or maybe it's the other way around? He gets disappointed and leaves. And then, how do you imagine it: “going through Dianetics”? It sounds the same as: “go through Gestalt, go through psychoanalysis.” In short, it's impossible. Since Dianetics is a method of therapy (group and individual), it is impossible to undergo it. You can go THROUGH it. But you can’t know it all.
I named all the sources. Naturally, Scientologists do not openly show confidential materials, but information leaks occur all the time. But if you want to believe in a worldwide conspiracy that is forging Hubbard's writings, good for you.
Yes, there is such a sin. I would very much like to look at the secret directives of the Russian Orthodox Church, which instructs to spread rot on all movements, religions and non-religions. Judging by what the Russian Orthodox Church is doing, there certainly are such people.
By the way, I draw your attention to the fact that you bypassed my questions. These ones:
“And finally, you didn’t bring one interesting quote. The one where Kozlov says: if you don’t want to, don’t go to Scientology. Quietly practice Dianetics for yourself. The question I want to ask is: why did you miss this quote? And others, obviously don't fit your version? For example, that in Scientology everyone marches in formation and prays to Hubbard? Eh?"
I don’t know why, but I don’t want to hallucinate. Just answer please.
Eijin: As I understand it, everything related to psychology can be criticized. Yes?
You can scold anything at all.
Is it possible to see where, when and by whom the statistical study was carried out?
I can't understand your logic. How can you go through church all your life?
It may not take a lifetime to complete the entire required course.
This means that my opinion as a psychologist does not convince you.
I don’t know what kind of psychologist you are, but you obviously don’t understand the issue of Dianetics/Scientology at all. And besides, you enter into a dispute only with the goal in itself to prove Kozlov is right.
Maybe you should at least learn the basics (start with my website, for example)?
Or maybe it's the other way around? He gets disappointed and leaves.
And then, how do you imagine it: “going through Dianetics”?
If you don't want to, don't join Scientology. Practice Dianetics quietly for yourself.
in Scientology everyone marches in formation and prays to Hubbard?
In general, if you sow the wind, you will reap the storm.
Careless Americans in the 50s, allowing the then harmless dianetics foundations to grow, ensured the existence of an organization of totalitarian psychoterrorism, the most perfect form of organized crime. We must not allow this to happen here in Russia.
Evil Freud: You can scold anything at all.
Yes, yes. And you can find serious reasons for everything.
Contact any anti-cult organization - Lisa McPherson Foundation, FACT, etc. The Church itself never gives true statistics.
I would like to see such a study on some website. Is there such a thing? (Russian-speaking, if possible).
I'm tired of repeating - there is no Church there, it's just a cover (see Hubbard). This is a commercial organization that sells psychotrainings.
Exactly like Sinton and many other companies. Our differences with you come from this. I perceive Dianetics as one of the therapeutic options. I know it can work, and work well. You can take a lot from it and use it in individual sessions and in group work. I think that Kozlov had precisely this aspect in mind when he wrote that this is not a sect. I think he was talking about the WAY to work. I did not consider all the structures and other ritual dances of Scientologists. That's why I wrote it like that. If we take everything as a whole and consider how you did it, then I readily admit that from your point of view I was wrong. I hope my position is now clearer to you.
I don’t know what kind of psychologist you are, but you obviously don’t understand the issue of Dianetics/Scientology at all.
Not at all. A year ago I was actively interested in Scientology, but now I vaguely remember who an auditor is and how many people will not accept Scientology under any circumstances, for which they must be destroyed. I spoke as a psychologist, not a sectologist. Please take into consideration.
And besides, you enter into a dispute only with the goal in itself to prove Kozlov is right.
What is his right? I want to show you that his article is informational and not promotional. The other day, by the way, I re-read a chapter from “The Personality Formula.” Despite all the outward complacency and lightness of the text, the article trashes Scientology to nothing.
Rather, he is not completely disappointed, but sometimes finds certain interesting moments. And he is immediately brainwashed: “this is just preparation, real success will come further.” At subsequent levels it’s the same.
Yes, you need to be able to motivate a client this way. Although it’s strange, why does almost everyone leave after five years? Apparently they are still disappointed. Or the money is running out
Again your complete illiteracy in this matter shows.
Dianetics is only progressed to a certain "end state" called the "clear" state.
Absolutely right, if you understand Dianetics as a way of pumping out money and transferring it to other, even more expensive courses, then you are right. I looked at Dianetics from a different perspective.
How is that? “Only do the Synton program, and don’t go to Synton itself - it’s a sect,” so what?
A little different. Do not participate in the Distance, club events, satellite trainings, etc.
Yes, this is the correct phrase. But she is the only one right out of ten wrong ones.
There are not ten incorrect phrases there. You showed only one thing: about the calmness and tolerance of Scientology.
And further. The Real Truth is a pretty old book. For some reason, in the later “Personality Formula” the reviews became different. Why did it happen?
We must not allow this to happen here in Russia.
As I already wrote: I have at least a disdainful attitude towards Scientologists. I am for objectivity.
Eijin: I would like to see such a study on some website. Is there such a thing? (Russian-speaking, if possible).
Look here
N.I. Kozlov: In my opinion, such an examination is a shame and disgrace. The initial formulation of the question: “Is it possible to cause harm to the health of citizens when applying the methods used in the Hubbard Humanitarian Center and the Church of Scientology in Moscow?” - a manifestation of either intellectual narrow-mindedness, or (or even, most likely) political acumen. Since dianetics, high school, and parachuting can cause harm to health, the question posed to the examination is rhetorical and therefore empty. A reasonable question would be: “What is the balance of benefit and harm from the use of dianetics techniques for the physical and mental health of people, taking into account long-term consequences?”, but such questions are not asked in commissioned examinations.
By the way, try to use NLP instead of Dianetics in conclusion - and you will understand that you can easily and justifiably roll out the same cart using NLP. And what? Is this a problem with NLP or some kind of “expert opinion”?
Eijin, I have no special sympathy for Dianetics, but I would like to see respect for decency not only from it (I have complaints about it, I formulated them in the “Formula of Personality”), but also from those who attack Dianetics.
Evil Freud: I read the examination. Actually, she didn’t tell me anything new. Any illiterate psychological work can be interpreted as harm. As you remember, I asked for STATISTICS, not an examination.
However, my words should not be understood as a defense of Scientology. I'm just curious.
Eijin: Indeed, there are no statistics. Statistics require a powerful apparatus and funding. The Church itself gives only false, inflated statistics. So I can't help you.
Personally, I have seen an abundance of negative examples.
For example, the woman who spread Dianetics in our city, and from whom my mother bought the book "Dianetics", ended up in a violent ward of the local psychiatric hospital.
This, of course, is an extreme case, but more often than not, a passion for Dianetics leads to serious deformations of thinking for the worse. This was written about on this forum in the topic "Scientology".
I don't think that Dianetics can be used as correct psychotherapy. Hubbard did not conduct any practical research and came up with all the cases of “happy healings” himself. Dianetics themselves tend to evaluate the results of their work with a positive bias. The book "Dianetics" is full of lies, ridiculous promises, exaggerations, misunderstood and distorted scientific ideas and self-contradictory concepts.
Erich Fromm writes: “But the worst thing is HOW Dianetics is written. A mixture of a certain number of simplified truths, half-truths and outright absurdity, a propaganda technique of stunning the reader with the greatness, infallibility and novelty of the author’s system, promises of unheard-of results achieved by simply following Dianetics “This is the technique that leads to the most unfortunate results in the fields of patent medicine and politics. When applied to psychology and psychiatry, it will not be less harmful.”
Evil Freud: Indeed, there are no statistics. Statistics require a powerful apparatus and funding. The Church itself gives only false, inflated statistics. So I can't help you.
I don't think that Dianetics can be used as correct psychotherapy.
If applied correctly, it is possible.
About the examination - yes, it has many shortcomings. Maybe you'll like my "expertise" better?
And the topic of the topic is about whether NIK supports Sciento and Dianetics. I hope you saw that no, it does not support.
Eijin: If used correctly, it is possible.
Dianetics itself is fundamentally flawed. For example, I find the idea that a person can experience perinatal, prenatal and transpersonal states without the use of holotropic breathwork, regressive hypnosis and other powerful tools questionable. In most cases, Dianetics practitioners go through illusions rather than actual incidents in sessions. For example, Hubbard writes in the book that mothers tried to abort patients by piercing them with knitting needles. The result is that Russian patients born in the 60s and 70s began to “remember” that their mothers pierced them with knitting needles during pregnancy. But, excuse me, we are not America, abortions are allowed here, so having an abortion with needles is a stupid thing to do. If their mothers had wanted to abort them, they would not have been born.
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You and I, dear reader, will have to try to figure out the question ourselves - what is Scientology, who is Hubbard and is it possible to quietly practice Dianetics without going to the Church of Scientology...
